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Re: Genetic Memory
by wendy on Saturday August 16, @01:05AM
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Hi, I was just searching to see what I could find about Genetic Memory and I came across your item, I couldn't however access the article you spoke of. I hadn't realised there was a name to what I had experienced until someone mentioned the term to me. I realised that I have had memories that have been passed down from parents etc, and because I have thought alot about it I had come to the concluson that along with aspects of your personality, genetic blueprint etc comes memories that not only form our instincts and maybe our character but also can come pure memories. I have always had a memory of being a naked woman in an insane asylum but I have also had 3 memories of my fathers life before I was born - him riding a motorcycle at the age of 18 / 19. I asked him if he had done this at this particular place, a beach in the Nth Island place and he said he had practically every Friday/Sat night for a couple of years. I also had memories of him not being allowed to his mothers funeral at the age of seven because he was sick. He had never realised this himself until I told him I remebered sitting on a step watching the hurse & family cars pull away and knowing I couldn't go because I had chicken pox and a lady I didn't know was here to keep an eye on me, he was amazed because he then said he had forgottn that as a child and now remembered. I also have a memory of him running home as a child, very worried he would get belted if he didn't get there before his father did with, my grandfather was physically abusive and I 'remember' being so worried I nearly wet my pants. I have other memories of past times, they used to freak me out and send me half mad but now I think it is incredible and I'm proud that I have knowledge alot of people don't have, these are some of the miracles of life.
When you think further how do we know to suckle to get breast milk and the hundreds of other survival mechanisms we do as an infant or child, we've learned them all before at some level??!
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Re: Genetic Memory: Transferred Conciousness
by John on Sunday March 14, @01:32PM
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One thing I don't understand about this topic is why everyone seems fixated on the idea that the memories have to pass genetically.
There is a lot of evidence today to show that when a baby is born there is already a vast amount of synapsis in place. These then go through a use it or lose it process.
What if instead of transferring this "Learned" knowledge genetically, it was implanted through more of a transfer of consciousness.
Consider sharks. They know at birth not to eat pufferfish because it will kill them. This is especially interesting because Sharks are on their own at birth. The mother doesn't teach like a lion teaches her young. The shark is simply born with this knowledge. Or like a spider born with the knowledge of how to build a web.
There are tremendous other cooincidental examples of this. Think for example of the mother's connection with a new born. There are occasions when the mother just seems to know when somethings happening with the baby.
I propose the knowledge is transferred to others in a non-verbalized form but not necessarily through DNA. It seems far more likely to imprint a mothers conciousness to a child then to physically alter the DNA.
Clearly what we call instinct is some learned behavior that is somehow then handed down. Whether it's conciousness transfered or rebuilt DNA.
Why is this important to you? This then then changes your entire purpose in life. Suddenly, what you develop in yourself may have consequnces 1000 generations from now. Think of that first shark that learned to not eat puffer fish. Or the spider that built the better web. They add something far more then the genectics. They've added knowledge. There's no reason to believe that we can't add knowledge that becomes instinct in the same way. Though we'll probably never rely on it so heavily.
Still, consider that what you develop in your own life can have such broad repercussions. Yes you can throw your life away, or you could be the one who adds some little tidbit that makes the world a better place.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by george trotter on Friday April 23, @06:00AM
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the implications of such a theory are fascinating. evolution in progress. past life regression, reincarnation, instinct, there all involved. this links in nicely with theory of various species of human(breed) think about it; fish- all the various species, colours, but they're all still fish. replace fish with human. broaden this to personality differences, pain thresh-holds variations, physical charactoristics - and now gentic memory!!
hmm beautiful.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Vera House on Friday May 21, @10:52AM
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Genetic memory is a fact,not a theory.
Take a seed it knows exactly what it will be.How else would a bird know how to build a nest or a salmon know how to swim from way out in the ocean back to a certain stream to spawn.
There are certain Indian tribes that have members that are born with knoledge of herbs and healing plants at avery young age that have not been taught these things. We all have experienced
that feeling of having been places and met people that we know we haven't been in our life time,surely if we inherit so many other thing from past generations such as eye color,manerisms,and diseases, some that go back many generations having skipped generations before showing up again.then how else do we explain this except genetic memery in every cll of our body.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Anne Johnston on Sunday November 21, @06:55PM
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There is nothing weird about the theory. Have you ever researched your family history? You will be amazed.
There is also no such thing as coincidence. It's knowledge and experience. We feel alien to a certain place and circumstances or we feel familiar to it. We feel we have to retreat or advance. We are all born with the capability to cope with that experience if not they (our ancestors) failed.
After 4 years of research I am totally convinced we were all born with genetic memories. I am drawn to places, I now realise, my ancestors lived in. I have also delved into my friends past histories and discovered they can do likewise.
I'd love to compere thoughts on the subject.
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Anne.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Jamie on Thursday February 24, @03:20AM
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I also find this subject interesting.
If we gained ‘genetic memory’ from previous generations (I suspect only from males, as only sperm is regenerated constantly- ova are not) surely it would be in the best interests of a species to breed with elderly males as they would have the most memories to pass onto their offspring, which would then be better equipped to survive the pressures of evolution.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Joe on Tuesday March 08, @04:19PM
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I have been thinking about this for some time. I foolishly thought that I had come up with this one on my own. It is nice to see that there are like minded people out in the world. About the artical....It referred to a theory of a universal consiousness and credited Juag with this idea. This is an old concept, Ralph Waldo Emerson called it the "oversoul" and his theories went on to be called Transentalizm. Forgive the spelling...I think the over all concept of genetic memory kills off the idea of past lives. The memory that you have of a 1920's sing cat from Paris are not your memories there your grandpa's.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Brendan on Monday May 16, @11:28AM
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In order for this theory to work, memory information would have to be communicated with sex cells.
The neurons then would have to overcome a barrier and change the DNA in sperm / eggs. Of course this means that the body has an innate mechanism for personal genetic engineering, which isn't true.
Which is why I think this theory does not work, I dont believe in genetic 'memory' as such that is learned in an individuals life time. Alternatively I believe it ties in with evolution, and as populations change new survivability skills are intertwined with behavioural traits that the species use to communicate with eachother.
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by Elizabeth on Monday September 19, @10:43PM
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Wow, this is so great to see others that have reached the same logical conclusion as I have! I am doing reaserch on the connection between Mitochondrial DNA and past live memory. Mitochondrial DNA is not scrambled from generation to generation. It is passed on from mother to child, through the maternal line. So if the memory comes from some distant ancestor, it will be remembered in the first person and through regression could be worked out. However the memory would not actually be your own, even though it might seem like it is. If this link can be achieved than not only would that validate the field of "past lives" regression, but it would also reinforce the Christian world view. Other implications if proven true, would actually shatter the entire foundation of eastern thought wich is built entirely around breaking out of bondage from multiple live cycles.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Dave C on Monday November 07, @01:01AM
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I am so glad I found this website.
I have fought with Myself mentally for over 10 years because i am a Christian.
I have however very vivid memories of a time before I was born.
Very vivid memories and lots of them.
The bible does not allow for reincarnation so this was a dilemma. Certain Smells, Certain Places, even music can trigger extremely vivid memories and to be honest frightened Me.
Genetic memory is an at least comforting possibility.
I won't go into detail but the memories are so vivid as to seem My own.
It was never anything like I was some famous person or someone of any great importance.
I just remember things that I couldn't possibly remember. I also have dreams that coincide with these memories of a different earlier time.
I really need to look into this more in depth as it is a comforting answer considering My religious beliefs.
Dave
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My version of genetic memory
by Jeff Austin on Monday January 30, @10:11PM
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Back in the fall of 2001, the Thursday before Sept. 11th, I started taking a basic Christianity class. Coming from the deep trenches of the metaphysical world, I found it mildly amusing, but mostly annoying. A few months later as I was leaving work for the weekend, I suddenly realized that I no longer believed in reincarnation. I could accept that, but what drove me mad on the way was the WHY didn’t I believe it anymore. Along the half hour drive, I attempted several quick rationalizations, to no avail. I got home and immediately started typing about a theory I then called “Quantum DNA”. Here’s how it works: With every breath you take, every thought you think, every emotional you feel, everything you see and every action you take, an energy clone is instantaneously imprinted into “your” qDNA. Ever wonder what really goes on inside of a hydrogen atom? This qDNA, or a sub-set thereof then gets physically passed primarily through the sperm of the male. However, because our “known” universe is actually made up of nothing but electrical energy in various structures, one logical conclusion could be that as a “solid” object, say yourself passes along time, you’d be leaving traces of your energy for someone that was “tuned similarly” could catch. The result could then be a hybrid of sorts of a new qDNA (this is actually another theory I’m working on to explain remote viewing). Now, the real theory I’d like to state: In the Bible, we are told that humans are born once, live once, die once and are judged once. The reoccurring word there pretty much blows up the idea of reincarnation. So, how was it that Jesus was without sin? It could be simply explained that no human sperm hit the Virgin Mary’s egg. Hence, a “man” truly without sin. I’m still working on my theory, that’s about it for now. Think about it if you want to, or don’t.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Jennifer Jones on Saturday February 11, @05:04PM
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Wow! This looks like an older thread, but I am impressed. Genetic memory is something I have believed in for a few years, since I moved to Colorado, actually. We decided to move here for several reasons, but the mountains was one of them. After living here a little while I got this overwhelming feeling that I was looking at the wrong mountains. I couldn't shake it, as weird as it sounds. My heart longed for mountains, but these were not it. I soon started having this weird series of dreams about a place I had never been. It was cold, wet, and there were mountains. The right ones. There was lots of water, too. Not like Colorado. In one of my dreams,it was like I was absolutely there. Sights, smells, sounds, all of which I had never in my life experienced. I did not see any people, I only saw the boots of the person I was following. Boots made of some sort of hide. We were walking together down a mountainside, towards a body of water, and we were stepping on dark grey slate colored rocks. I drew some pictures of the mountains I saw, and wrote down everything I could remember. After some studying, I think it was Scotland. I have never been there, and had previously known nothing about it. My dreams were like the vivid memory that only someone who had been there would have. Now I have this drive to visit Scotland, find those mountains I dreamed of, and dig into those untapped memories. I am much more of a spiritual person than a scientific one, but I know that there is truth in this. I've experienced it. Just thought I would type it into Google to see if anyone else had the same beliefs. Awesome.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Timohy Robert Smith on Wednesday March 22, @10:20PM
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I see several different catagories of "genetic memory"
1) Our brains store memories as chemical groupings. While in the womb, we get alot of our antiboties from our mother, which is chemical. Why couldn't we also get a copy of at least part of the chemical memory groupings transfered to us as well?
(according to this idea, we would only get "genetic memories" from our mother's upto the time of our birth.
2) We inherit "genetic dispositions".
This means that we are naturally "drawn to" certain things, not that we "know" specifics about them, but when we are introduced to them, they "feel" right, so we explore them further.
3) We do get memories passed onto us through our genetic code like we get eye color ect...
I don't like this idea.
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Some claim to have memories from thier mother from times before they were born and this can be explained through idea #1, but I don't understand how memories can be passed on to us from our father. If anyone has an idea concerning this, let me know.
I also believe that we do not get all the memories from our mother passed onto us, just random ones.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Daniel Cunningham on Thursday June 22, @04:14PM
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I let you know about I learned a lot about genetic memory. I did studied in my family tree a lot since all my life after my grandmom identifed my life. She knew that I was reborn from her family tree of Donnelly. She sreamed and said" Thank God, you are born again and you just the Donnelly heart."
I let you know when I was younger. When I was 9 years old. I did drew the art of my own. The art was about to drew of red bricks house with along iris flowers. My Grandmom identifed my art and told my dad about my art which I drew. She was very shock that I already knew about the house I drew. But I never met her aunt and never see her house before. My grandmom told my dad that his art was from My Aunt Anna s house in New Jersey. My grandmom found her old photo picture of her aunt s house. It was match of my art which I drew. My parentes realized that I have uncanny abilities.
Later on, I researched Donnelly family tree for 2 days. I already done finish the family tree of Donnelly. The time line of donnelly family tree from 1600s to now.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by lizzie on Monday October 02, @12:19AM
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Plato once warned us "Don't drink from the river of forgetfulness" (I have attached Plato's myth of Er at the bottom of this email)
Our memories come with our energy. Or our energy is our memory. Our body is a vessel for our vibrating energy to express itself, and the best way to utilize our body is to take advantage of the bodies buidling block, DNA. Who's to say that we can't transcribe non physical matter? There must be away for matter and non physical matter to join-so be it-if DNA is just an instument for the selfs energy to vibrate off from. Like a guitar, a guitar does not have memory of a song it plays, but allows for it to be plucked in such a way a song comes out. So with us, we use DNA as the strings on our bodies guitar to play our own indiviual song. This song which we carry from body to body-and thus can change with each new bodies guitar until we reach our most harmonious song.
Here you can read Plato's myth of Er:
I witnessed one final step prior to the take off spot for the return journey to Earth. I marched with the assembly of souls through a burning heat and frost across the Plain of Lethe. At last, when we arrived at the River of Forgetfulness, some of us felt compelled to satisfy their thirst. Foolish souls drank more than the rest. The more they drank, the deeper they slept - and the more they forgot of their divine heritage.
Unlike the rest, I chose to forgo the waters of Lethe in order to remember all that I had seen and heard. I remained wide awake at midnight to witness a lightning and quaking of the universe to awaken the souls, propelling them to the waiting wombs of their earthly mothers - leaping upward like shooting stars.
Twelve days had passed since I had "died" on the battleground. Yet before I knew it, I had opened my eyes and found himself on the funeral pyre, not knowing by what means I had gone in and out of my body.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Andy Thornton on Monday December 04, @06:42AM
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To carry on from other peoples theories on this subject I would like to add my own thoughts. First if you look back through the 'Genuine' past hypnotic regressions you will find two constants. First it is unlikely that any person will remember a past life where they were Julius Caeser or Napoleon. They are more like to recall being a Napoleon Foot soldier or a French Peasant girl with very little noteriety or information that can be checked. The second thing is that the memories will tend to fall into two broad categories. They are either very traumatic or very mundane. Traumatic as in Napoleon Foot Soldier recalls being shot or Mundane as in French Peasant girl recalls farm house she lived in all her life.
These memories have one thing in common. intensity! i.e. If I shot you, you would not forget this. It is something that would stay with you as a memory for the rest of your life. and If you lived in the same place for the majority of your life again this is not something you would forget. They are both strong memeories. As such these are memories that unlike short term memories are stored in a different way in the brain.
In conclusion as a survival technique it makes sense for there to be a natural method of stopping the shark eating the puffer fish or the monkey to be afraid of red snakes based on the experiences of thos who came before and I can see all logic to the process even if I can't explain the mechanics yet.
My experiment
Although Im English (and only english speaking);
My grandfather was born in India to English parents and spoke fluent Hindustani. A language I know nothing about. But I intend to see if via hypnosis I can tap this memory of a 'mundane' or lived with thought and see what happens. Hopefully I will find I can speak or understand the language without any learning.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Monique on Saturday April 21, @04:05AM
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I propose we are in a state of constant evolution. Only the evolution is no longer just physical, but spiritual as well. Another form of transmission of memories and emotions could be language or communication When we talk to other people, read something written with emotion or are surrounded by other people, we are changed on both a physical and a spiritual level. The vector of transmission being emotions. Our DNA, or our very spiritual self is changed by these constant interactions with other people, we take in some of their beliefs for sorting and integrating or rejecting. Regarding Adam and Eve and the apple. I believe the snake could be language. Question: What would the apple be. Answer – power. The apple is still as always power. The mistake that our ancestors made in the initial instance was assuming snake and apple = bad. Adam, Eve, snake and apple were all made by God. (or higher power as it may be understood. We’ll keep following the snake till it’s ultimate destination, where power will only ever be used for good. My three year old is fascinated with fire. He must be at an age where his genetic memory of fire has kicked in.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by edgar on Saturday May 12, @02:33PM
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genetic memory is a fact, when we think of ganetic memory we think of us gaving memorys of are father and gradfathers, but thats not all think of the world as a big family that we all came from a small group some were in Africa right?. right so all the scramble dreams that we have some times even getting killed,speaking another language, are just memorys of realated blood lines...
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Caleb Hendon on Monday May 14, @10:55AM
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What fascinates me is this: Assume that we can pass "intense" or deep-seeded memories genetically. Assume that all of life originated from some rare self-replicating precursor to rNA. Isn't it possible then, even probable, that the first sparks or neural activity are recorded in the deep, dark annals of our genetic memory? Or even more awe-inspiring, the first glimpses of conscious thought! These memories would likely be quite difficult to comprehend, as they would not necessarily be in a humanoid frame of reference. But the fact that they may be there creates a strong desire to divulge what they may hold of my past, of our past as an existent universe!
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Bob Lincoln on Monday June 04, @12:33PM
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That's "Deep-seated", not deep-seeded.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Aaron Johnson on Monday June 18, @01:19PM
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I believe it's possible. Consider the Danaus Plexippus (Monarch Butterfly). It travels some three thousand miles from Northeast United States to Mexico on instinct alone. There even seems to be some biblical basis for the concept, as God promises the children of Israel that curses will follow them unto the third and fourth generation.
Strong enough emotions may find a way across generational barriers through genetic memory.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Brooke on Sunday June 24, @07:46PM
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Me, my friend, and her dad were watching Discovery Channel and that one show, "I Shouldn't Be Alive" or whatever it's called. And this girl was going insane slowly because she was dying, and she started speaking in Latin. It just occured to me, "How could she do that?" and my friend's father (he's a very intelligent man) explained to me genetic memory. Because Latin was the original language or something.
He also explained that some people can go so far back in their genetic memory that they can remember when they were cavemen and can even go back to the very first cell.
Anddd he also explained that some people would go into deprivation chambers (a coffin filled with extremely salty water so that you would float, and you can't see or hear anything) and take a bunch of hallucinogens in order to go back into their genetic memory.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Dan Jackson on Monday July 30, @07:17PM
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Hey all. I recently started contemplating genetic memory and stumbled across this page. If we all have genetic memory, then just how far back could it go? If it were to go back far enough to the point where the universe was created, would we as humans be ready to understand such knowledge and not to use it for our own gains? The glimpses we have sometimes (im sure everyone has had it, where you feel like for a split second you have the answer to every question you could ever want to know, but then as quickly as it comes it fades away once again), i think there is some sort of knowledge pool..(or lifestream as i like to refer to it), which we are born from, and which when we pass away we return to, taking with us our experiences in order to better understand. If this is the case, then that would mean that we have all technically lived as each other, it would also suggest a collective sub conscious that is within each living organism. A collective sub conscious? a link to the lifestream? some sort of psychic link?, it is feasible to hypothesise that because the human brain is made up of various electrical signals, that if two minds are perfectly aligned, that some sort of communication might take effect. Because the human mind is such a powerful thing perhaps we are evolving the ability to be empathic, or possibly telepathic. An 'out-there' theory, yes quite possibly, but because all things resonate (wavelength wise) it is plausible to consider that ones mind might acheive harmony with anothers. If we do have genetic memories dating back to way back in time...heres one i just came up with to think about...what if we have memories of the future?...say for instance we accept that genetic memories do exist. Then technically we have the knowledge of the future within our very beings. To harness such knowledge would be the next logical step. Human kind is not ready for that step yet. I hope some day it will be. But right now with us killing each other in wars the world over, such power is dangerous without control. A car is a means of getting one self from one destination to the next, but if a car is out of control it wont make the destination it will crash along the way. Henceforth it would surely be better to get out and walk, than take the car and crash. (to be humble, as opposed to power hungry). Just a few thoughts for you anyways. O.k dudes/dudettes im off to bed - God bless - Dan.
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Re: Genetic Memory
by Arial on Friday September 28, @03:31PM
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I've been on the fence, back and forth about reincarnation and the heaven/hell thing. There are certain "memories" I've had through the years that have led me to question reincarnation OR genetic memory.
I'm leaning more toward the genetic memory theory, but I'm wondering if it's more of an energy transferrance than it is a molecular inheritance. Well, that might actually be a contradiction since molecules ARE energy. Anyway, more of an energy transferrance than a physcial one. And is energy considered spiritual?
I have a particular LOVE and drawing toward the United Kingdom and particularly of the Medieval and Renaissance periods of the ages. I also have love of Germany and France...my ancestry is from all those places. I have an apptitude for the German and French languages, but couldn't learn Spanish or Italian to save my life! I have no Italian or Spanish ancestry in my blood.
When I was a little girl of 4, we went to New Orleans to visit my Uncle Ralph - my first time there - and we walked into a restaurant. I told my mother, "Hey! We've been here before!" but when we walked into the restaurant, where there was a courtyard in the center exposed to the sky, I said, "Oh, but the fountain isn't there anymore!" Come to find out years later, we are descendents of General P.G.T. Beauregard of the Confederate Army who lived most of his life and died in New Orleans.
Genetic memory may SUPPORT the Christian mode of thought - one life, one death, heaven or hell destination - however, it doesn't prove it. Does genetic memory disprove reincarnation? I don't think so. But I also don't think it proves it. So there I am on the fence.
I'm confused about the actual transferrance of the "memories", too. On my mother's side, we have Bohemian, French, Irish, German and Polish ancestry. On my father's side, we have English, Irish, Welsh, Romanian Gypsy and Greek. I feel no pull toward the Greek, Bohemian or Polish ancestry in my family. I find them beautiful and fascinating - and there's even an element of comfort because they were part of my growing up - but not like I do the French, Irish, German, English, Welsh or Romanian Gypsy. Strange.
As an element of this discussion, my sister is particularly drawn to the Greek ancestry in our family and passionately associates with it. She almost discounts the other elements of our family or just mildly refers to it.
Just food for thought. That's my two pence...
Arial I've been on the fence, back and forth about reincarnation and the heaven/hell thing. There are certain "memories" I've had through the years that have led me to question reincarnation OR genetic memory.
I'm leaning more toward the genetic memory theory, but I'm wondering if it's more of an energy transferrance than it is a molecular inheritance. Well, that might actually be a contradiction since molecules ARE energy. Anyway, more of an energy transferrance than a physcial one. And is energy considered spiritual?
I have a particular LOVE and drawing toward the United Kingdom and particularly of the Medieval and Renaissance periods of the ages. I also have love of Germany and France...my ancestry is from all those places. I have an apptitude for the German and French languages, but couldn't learn Spanish or Italian to save my life! I have no Italian or Spanish ancestry in my blood.
When I was a little girl of 4, we went to New Orleans to visit my Uncle Ralph - my first time there - and we walked into a restaurant. I told my mother, "Hey! We've been here before!" but when we walked into the restaurant, where there was a courtyard in the center exposed to the sky, I said, "Oh, but the fountain isn't there anymore!" Come to find out years later, we are descendents of General P.G.T. Beauregard of the Confederate Army who lived most of his life and died in New Orleans.
Genetic memory may SUPPORT the Christian mode of thought - one life, one death, heaven or hell destination - however, it doesn't prove it. Does genetic memory disprove reincarnation? I don't think so. But I also don't think it proves it. So there I am on the fence.
I'm confused about the actual transferrance of the "memories", too. On my mother's side, we have Bohemian, French, Irish, German and Polish ancestry. On my father's side, we have English, Irish, Welsh, Romanian Gypsy and Greek. I feel no pull toward the Greek, Bohemian or Polish ancestry in my family. I find them beautiful and fascinating - and there's even an element of comfort because they were part of my growing up - but not like I do the French, Irish, German, English, Welsh or Romanian Gypsy. Strange.
As an element of this discussion, my sister is particularly drawn to the Greek ancestry in our family and passionately associates with it. She almost discounts the other elements of our family or just mildly refers to it.
Just food for thought. That's my two pence...
Arial
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